Episode 17 - Not Too Old, Not Too Late: Rewriting the Rules of Aging

Not Too Old, Not Too Late: Rewriting the Rules of Aging
Forget everything you’ve been told about getting older. In this episode of Andi & Mich, two sisters, two generations, and two unapologetic opinions tackle the myths, stereotypes, and straight-up lies about aging. From the cultural timelines we never asked for to the quiet (and loud) ways ageism shows up in our daily lives, we’re calling BS.

We share personal stories about breaking “too old” barriers, the groundbreaking Counterclockwise Study that proved mindset can literally reverse aging effects, and a powerful list of famous people who found massive success later in life — from Viola Davis to Colonel Sanders (yes, the KFC guy).

If you’ve ever been told “you’re too old” to change careers, start a business, go back to school, wear what you want, or try something new… this episode is your permission slip to ignore the noise and write your own story.

You’ll learn:

• Why mindset matters more than your birth year
• How to catch and challenge your own age-related limiting beliefs
• The truth about how AI & media manipulate “aging” images
• Real-life examples of late bloomers who proved it’s never too late
• How different cultures view aging — and why it matters

Whether you’re 26 or 66, it’s time to reframe aging as an opportunity, not a limitation.

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Welcome back to Andy and Mitch, the podcast where two sisters, two generations, and two opinions come together to talk about all the things. Today we're diving into a topic that hits everybody age, but not just birthdays and back pain. We're talking about mindset and the lies we've been told about what aging means. Because over 50 years of research says it, plain mindset changes everything. Your confidence, your creativity, and even your biology. So let's talk about rewriting the story of age. Grab your cafecito and let's dive in. We're talking about age and getting older and wiser. So lemme ask you this, when did you first feel too old to do something? That's a tough question. I think probably in my late twenties, early thirties. You start to notice it more when people start making comments like"oh, do you really wanna try and change careers right now? Or do you really wanna go back to school? Do you really wanna wear that crop top?" Like aren't you a little old to still be trying to figure it out? That's peak existential, bloom time it's nobody's business. I think the first time it was really impacting me was my last work environment. So many people were saying it about themselves and implying it when I would share stories of what I was doing. Like, oh, that's really wonderful, I could never do that, i'm just too old for that." I'm looking at them, looking at me and I'm like, I know you're judging me right now. You just told me you're judging me. I think that's when it started kind of hitting me and I started feeling like I'm becoming rigid with my ideals and like how I am seeing myself. I'm starting to put the walls of the box up and then I freaked out and I was like, I gotta get outta here. it's because like your soul knew. That like, no, no, no, no this is the wrong thing. You're like suffocating us. Yes. In the process. And also it's like too late according to who, like where did this construct even come from? Because we've been conditioned to believe that there is some sort of timeline on our lives. And if we miss it, then we've missed out, and that's it. And I don't think that's true. Like I remember going to grad school in my thirties and I had taken like a big gap time off between school, because the first part took me forever. And then I became a new mom, started a new job, and then went to grad school. And so everybody, it had in their mind what my timeline was gonna be. And then I changed it because I decided. Which was a huge, bold move. That, oh, I'm actually not gonna pursue a career directly in what I went to college for. I'm gonna try this other thing that came up still a very respectable career path. It was not a foreseen thing. It just kind of came up as an opportunity. And so I was very curious. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do that instead. Everybody flipped out, everybody had an opinion about like the timeline of my life and how I was going off track. Like, no, you're too old for this. You can't just change your mind now. Like you already went to grad school, so you have to do the thing that you said you were gonna do. And for years, even now to this day, and that's been like, 15 years since that happened, people will still have an opinion of like, oh, you should just go back and do the thing that you said you were gonna do to begin with. Because they can't deal with the fact that like I chose to do something different, at a different age in my way that didn't follow the script. Yeah, you did it your way. Culture pushes this Prerogative Magazine, headlines, job listings, TikTok trends. You get to a certain point where you start to realize that all of that is just bullshit. It's all noise. Because look at us, right? Like you're a millennial. I'm a young Gen Xer. Thank you very much. And we're like, oh, hey, let's start a podcast. In the realm of like pop culture, it'd be like, oh no like that's a young people's game. But why like, why does it have to be a young people's game? Right. And if we buy into it, then we suppress not only our lives and our light but also opportunities for ourselves. We've talked about this in other episodes, when you're trying to fit like other people's narratives of what your life is supposed to look like, you can lose yourself really easily. Mm-hmm. And it becomes incredibly hard to find your way back. There's like this saying that's like if you're going the wrong direction, get off as soon as you recognize it because if you keep going that direction, it takes one much longer to find your way back. And even now, like being in my forties, to some people they hear that and it feels so old. You know, and then for a moment I was like, oh yeah, like I'm in my forties now. Now I have to make different decisions and they have to be like very carefully planned and thought out and long term. I started to feel that pressure of, oh shoot, why haven't I done all the things that I was supposed to quote unquote do by the time I got into my forties? And also. Looking ahead. When you're, when you look ahead with that mindset, you start to think that the future is limited. I started to catch myself feeling like there's not gonna be new job opportunities for me. Or now, like if I wanna be curious about different career paths, I can't do that because now it's too late and I pass the window of opportunity. Yeah. Community. And even for the best of us, like we get caught up in this narrative that is completely false. And the research proves this because what got me thinking about this topic is I read something about, a study that was done in the late seventies called the Counterclockwise Study that literally showed that when adults were immersed in an environment. From their youth, they physically improved their vision improved. Their posture improved. Their memory improved. They literally aged down. Just solely based on believing that they were still that version of themselves. And shifting how they saw themselves and that's so powerful because they didn't do anything else for this group besides that. Besides say, okay, you are now 20 years younger. And to help you believe that we're gonna put you in this environment. You're gonna dress how you used to dress, you're gonna listen to the music you, you used to listen to. You're gonna eat the foods, you're gonna talk about those times, and then you're gonna go about your day as if you are that version of yourself and it changed them completely. That's wild. That's why I look so young'cause my room hasn't changed since I was in my twenties. I mean, it's like new and improved, but it's the same. You know? I also wonder now that you're saying that like, you know how like at a certain point in life and if you're listening, you haven't gotten there yet, then kudos to you but you stop listening to new music and you only listen to your music and you only listen to your old music. And it's almost like there's a part of you that knows. I mean, I listen to a lot of new music but it's because I'm active in the music world. But majority of the time when you're like, Hey, let me put something on that's gonna make me feel good. Is it a new song or is it an old song? It depends, like for me, you're gonna get a mixed bag. So sometimes it's new, sometimes it's old and sometimes what I've noticed now that I'm getting older is that I'm becoming more open to genres than I was when I was younger. I was a little bit more critical when I was younger. Yeah, when you were younger. Wink, wink. But I can see that a lot of people would do that from a psychological standpoint and not even know that they were doing it. It's like almost like they're time capsuling themselves. And in the study they noticed results in just one week. This wasn't like six months, a year, two years that they put them in, it was one week. That's like a vacation for most people. Like just in one vacation you can change everything and what was even more wild is that a lot of them actually looked visibly younger. Like because their mindset changed. Their biology, their body started to shift. Change with it. You know what I'm realizing as you're saying this is like this is a great opportunity for people who own Airbnbs. They did time capsule Airbnbs that people can rent. Or VRBO'cause you know Airbnb. Oh yeah. V-R-B-O-I don't even, you know, when you said that, I was like, what does virtual reality have to do with this. VRB? Right Back, what? This is how, you know, you start aging out'cause the acronyms don't make any sense to you anymore. But like, sometimes people say acronyms and I'm like, yeah, I'll just figure it out later. Every time you say MCE? Yeah. My brain just takes M and runs with it and it's like Marvel, the Marvel character universe and it's like not even close to what you're telling me. You're all Marvel character enterprise. Got it, love it. Nailed it. The fact that research has proven. That in over 50 years of studying this, that mindset changes everything, that age is just a number. But that it is the story that you attach to that number that determines your future because their age didn't change. Right. They were all 56, 86, whatever the various ages were. So it's not our age that limits us, but it's what we've been conditioned to believe about our age that limits us. So same thing, like I'm in my forties and I'm like, oh no I have internalized these beliefs that by the time you're this age, you should have accomplished so much more and now it's too late to pivot and I got over that fast y'all, and I do still find moments where I'm like, I catch myself questioning it. Sometimes I don't care enough, one might say but then I have little moments where it's like, oh, maybe I missed the window for this or maybe I missed the window for that For me particularly like looking at the way that people attach their self-worth to their roles sometimes it gets a little ridiculous, build a bear book for milestones. So we know age is a number, but it's the meaning we attach to that number, as you've said, Andy, that defines what we think we can do. Half the time that meaning is something that we've made up based on information that we took in from somewhere, whether somebody said something to us. Like, oh, you're supposed to make sure you have an established career by the time you're 30 and have your first kid before you're 31, and make sure you have a 401k and a Sephora skincare routine right? Either somebody said it to us, we heard it from somewhere, we saw it in pop culture, social media, if you're in the wrong algorithm stream, it could probably make you feel really bad about yourself. It's like, oh yeah, this is what it looks like to be 40 and thriving and it's like, lady, no. It's not all roses and rainbows all the time. You know what's funny is like being somebody that edits a lot of things, like videos. Photos, podcasts, music, I have learned to not believe a lot of it because then you're just like, I see all this stuff that makes this seems so cool. All the things that you cut out, all the retakes, all the tools, ai, all the tools that I utilize, the ai, the filters to make your skin look flawless while you're trying to sell me something that you barely used for the first time. Yes, okay, let's talk about AI for a minute, because I do think, ai and I'm gonna use the example of like, looking up skincare and makeup for aging skin. Cause yes, I have aging skin and my skin does not respond to things in the same way anymore. So I'm always like doing research, trying to find good, clean, simple products that actually work and don't cost a million dollars. But a lot of advertisements will use like images of older women. Even gray hair women but their skin is flawless and I'm like, no way. There are very few people in this world who look like that naturally at that age and have a full white head of hair. Yeah. Because AI created these images and then it starts to make older women feel more bad about themselves and you start buying more products. It's intentional, I get it but it's a whole new level of stuff that's being shoved in your face, at any age now. Maybe when we were younger was more like what you saw in magazines or what you saw on TV shows but now it's like everywhere in all that we consume because we're on our phones and our computers all the time. It's interesting because sometimes you can tell, but now it's gone so good. And here's the thing, it's a tool, so if you have a really good editor, who knows how to edit live footage and knows how to utilize these tools to make it smooth and seamless, you're not gonna be able to tell. As someone who can literally modify, I can take people things, places, everything out, you would never tell, you would never know. I've showed our mom and she is like. You're like a weapon, but it's'cause like there's an attention to detail that you have to have to be able to do those things that the average person who doesn't normally edit wouldn't notice. But now it's like in everybody's hands. People presenting themselves as everyday ordinary people because they are, but they're using all this technology and especially AI right now'cause it can even change your voice and all this stuff. These are our voices. This is how we sound. Yeah. Sorry. If you ever talk to us in person this what this is what you're gonna get. Yes, I agree with you and it's also not just beauty influencers. It is just all of them. I had one, she's a scientist. She was like, just to be completely transparent,'cause I have a lot of young women that are following me this is not the beauty standard. She took the filter off, she took all her makeup off, she showed what she really looked like. She's still a very beautiful woman but yeah, not flawless. Completely different. Like dark circles around the eyes, like imperfections, like all the things, right. As we as women see ourselves when we just have no makeup on, it's a different experience than the very polished version that we're seeing consistently 24/7. Yeah, because marketing and capitalism, I get that. Yes but let's reframe, what if getting older isn't decline? It's permission. To finally live for yourself, to create, to explore, to reclaim your timeline. Yeah, and honestly. I've done more meaningful things after 40 than I ever did in my twenties and my thirties. I have been the most engaged, present, loving, kind person in my forties, not only to people around me, but to myself. In ways that I never would've done at a younger age. And I have opened myself up to just the idea of like doing things because I want to do them, whether or not they fit in some sort of success timeline or checklist. That's the way to do it but also like, I guess you kind of have to have some kind of a checklist. I mean, yeah a loose guide for yourself, but it should not be what somebody else or something in society is subscribing to you. It should be something that you create on your own. I have things that I'm like, oh yeah, I'd like to be able to do X, Y, and Z, but I don't put a timeline on it. I don't say, oh, if I don't do this by the time I'm this age, then I'm taking it off the list and I'm never doing it. And a lot of people do that they put timelines on things. It's like, well, if I don't achieve X, Y, and Z by the time I'm 30, then forget it. Yeah, I mean, sorry, everybody, but because we've lost so many people in our lifetime. Me and Andy particularly have lost a lot of people and when you lose people, it changes the way you see life and also, we've lost two very main characters in our family, which is our father and our middle sister. Mm-hmm. And I didn't realize the impact of that until therapy and all the good stuff but one of the things is like death has always been something that I think of not in a creepy way but like, yeah, it's very prevalent in my mind, like that's gonna happen. You have to be an active participant in your life. Yeah but you should not waste your time overtly subscribing to the idealisms of the world because when you live for another person's outlook on your outcome, you're not living. Mm-hmm. What beliefs about aging have you started to challenge in yourself? If I wanna do something, if I wanna learn something, if I wanna try something, if I wanna take a course in something, if I wanna create something, I'm just gonna do it. You're funny. Once in a blue moon, I'll just all of a sudden be like, I'm doing this wild thing. This question to me is funny because now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, no, Andy has always kind of just done it. Yeah. Like you wanted to take a Pilates class you like told no one and you're like, I'm taking Pilates. Back when Pilates wasn't even that big of a deal. Yeah. It wasn't. I didn't know, it wasn't as well known. Yeah. I was like, what are you talking about? Karate? You're like, Pilates. You know actually that's one of the things that I think sometimes back then. If I would've had the money, it was very expensive cause it was not very widely known back then in the way it is now to become a Pilates instructor, I probably would've done it.'Cause you loved it. Yeah, I still love it. The training for it was really expensive. It was like a whole deal. Well, that's interesting that you say that'cause I think that's always been a part of my personality. Yeah. And it's probably too, because I think grief and loss has impacted me maybe a little differently. In that I haven't really thought about it specifically in terms of timeline but I have always felt like time's not promised. So I'm just gonna do it, you know? And if it doesn't work out, oh well I might be sad about it, I might be mad about it, I might not even care. And then I'm gonna just gonna keep going. Yeah. But yeah, just challenging those things in myself. I think I had to challenge myself more the closer I got to 40. Now I'm past that, but once I started to get there, I, that's the moment when I really felt the pressure of aging. And not just aging, but aging as a woman, the number of people. People who I know that brought up, I needed to dye my hair because I was showing too many grays, blew my mind because for me, I was like no, I earned this. Like this is all the stress, trauma, the shit that I've been through, like I survive. This is proof of my survival and the skill that it took to get here. Knowing everything I had been through but for other people and especially women, I don't think there was ever a man that commented on my hair. But women always, oh, are you gonna dye your hair soon? Oh, when are you gonna dye your hair? Oh, you're starting to get some grays. You should dye your hair. And it very much felt to me like, you need to mask up, you're showing your age and you need to hide it. Because you're not gonna be accepted and it's embarrassing or shameful or whatever individual people were feeling about the fact that my age was showing. And it, and the little rebel in me was like, screw that. I'm gonna let all grow out. And I did I just like totally went batshit crazy, I was like, I don't care. Women aging is a whole different ball game. Women aging is you get to 34, 35 and they start saying, aren't you so excited? 40 right around the corner like you don't even get to have 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, you're just 40 in their eyes now. You're crossing over to the other side at this point. Like, did I die? It's such a bizarre thing and then one of the things that I get a lot is like, you look so young for your age. You get that too. Thanks mom. Our mom is aging like fine wine. Yeah our mom's Caribbean skin. Really? We didn't get the pigment of it, but we definitely got the, like youthfulness. The bone structure and the youthfulness. It's interesting because that to me was always kind of an insult. They would be like, oh, you look so young, you don't even understand. And it's like, what do you mean? Because I look younger, you think that I'm more privileged and in some respects it is true. And that's really messed up because it shouldn't be that way. I think people should be allowed to be who they are. Yeah. Any age, any orientation, any sex, gender, whatever and they should just be allowed to exist and enjoy themselves. Yeah but aging is, it's one of those things that like no matter how far we feel we've come, it's a huge stigma. Ageism is alive and well, y'all, it is alive and well. It's thriving girl. Yes, especially for women. And instead of becoming an empowering thing, it's become a marketing tool. Well, for American culture for sure. Yeah. Because I feel like there's other cultures and civilizations where aging is actually seen as, the older you get, the wiser you are. So the more respected you are. There's a book it's called The Heroine Journey and if anybody wants to do like a deep dive into this, it's a good read, but it talks about the different stages of life that women usually go through. And from our younger selves to our middle aged selves, to our older selves. And there was a journey that you go to to become the Wise Crone. Which the Crone it was a respected title, like, wow, you made it, you got this far, and you have so much wisdom to share now with the people coming behind you. And somewhere along the line, that middle part got cut out. So, like you were saying, you just literally hit that nail on the head right now of you went from 35 to old crone. But it wasn't even like respected crone, it was just old crone. Yeah and it's only when I tell them of my age'cause when I mention, oh, I'm in, you know, my thirties, they're like, what? What do you mean? Then all of a sudden everything changes, which is really interesting.'Cause it's like,'cause that middle part gets left out and it's judged so harshly. Yeah and then they're like, well, don't worry, you at least look like you're 25. I'm like, why would I be worried? Yeah. Why does it matter? Some western societies especially those that emphasize individualism, that's where they really, really have a hard time with respecting people's aging process, I guess. They tend to be more ageist. But it's actually known still to this day, Mediterranean, Latin cultures, Southern Asian cultures, Middle Eastern cultures, and African cultures, including indigenous people believe their elders play a vital role in preserving their stories or timelines and their community. Yeah, I believe that but I do still think even in those cultures, there is this middle piece that is forgotten. It is you are the young youthful one or you're the elder. It's that old narrative that people tell themselves cause in the middle of your life, you're supposed to be raising a family" and that is like your only role, even if you are a parent now and you're raising a family, you can be multiple things, you're not just one role. And so I think that's where we need like a revolution and then the other part is, in capitalism, they project a lot of their marketing to youth, to subject people to certain ways of thinking and it's very problematic. We just saw that on the American Apparel"major fail" documentary, because they're more susceptible to purchasing. But contradictory, they say middle-aged women should want to look like these young women. Don't show your age, you have to pretend like you're not but no bullshit. And also a middle aged man is at the peak of his success. He's revered, he's starting to become a silver fox versus a middle-aged woman just forgotten. If you're not a mother and you're only doing that and nothing else, then do you even exist? You're a cat lady or you're a dog mom. At the beginning of this whole episode, we talked about how when you start to age this is when you start to come back to yourself. This is when you start to really expand and blossom and this is the perfect time for you to do new things and try new things and explore and expand because you have life experience now and you have wisdom that can come along with you versus trying to crouch yourself into, oh, let's use the metaphor of"Trying to stuff yourself into that tiny forever 21 dress that is no longer 21." I love them even though they're gone forever. They're gone forever. Even, they knew it was not forever 21. They're like for a while 21. And when we buy into these like invisible age limits that we start to internalize, cause it's constant messaging we then sabotage ourselves. A lot of times when you, tell yourself that you can only do X, Y, and Z and you put like an expiration date. There shouldn't be an expiration date if you truly believe in yourself, because any person who's lived through life there's always a give and take. Yeah. It's that you're buying into all the external noise and you don't want to be judged for going off timeline or you don't want people to talk about you. It's like, no. Being an outlier, which I think most of us are kind of meant to be, in some way, shape, or form. The stories we attach to our age are usually inherited, not chosen, but they can be rewritten. 100%. So let's talk about receipts because you know, we love a good list of badass people who popped off later in life. We have a whole list of people here and this list is probably way longer, but we're only gonna touch on a few that I think most people will recognize. Viola Davis love her, she actually didn't get her breakout role until her forties. She's wonderful. Amazing. You know what this means, right? We can go be movie stars. Vera Wang, I did know about this one she entered fashion at 40. Before that she was a figure skater and a journalist. So not only did she become huge as a fashion designer. I think she started with wedding dresses. She had two other completely different careers and then the one that blew up and made her the most money and the most notoriety was fashion. Julia Child didn't publish her first cookbook until she was 50. Julia Child I love me A good Julia Child recipe, lots of butter. Tony Morrison published her first novel at 39 and won the Noble Peace Prize in her sixties. Awesome. Samuel L. Jackson got his big break at 43. Stan Lee created his first hit comic at 39. Oh my God. And Spider-Man came even later than that. So his first comic book that became a hit, he was almost 40. That's pretty cool. And then I love that. Lived this long life enough to see like the whole Marvel Universe play out in movies, which is pretty incredible. Colonel Sanders started KFC in his sixties. Yeah. That's crazy. Morgan Freeman that's another one. I don't know if there's ever gonna be another Morgan Freeman'cause that voice is so iconic but he didn't get his big acting break until he was 50, in the movie driving, miss Daisy. Morgan Freeman, tweeted and said, someday he will die. And everyone in the comments was like, I heard that in your voice. That felt too real. If you're an oldie but goodie and you remember a little House on the Prairie? A TV show. It was actually a book first and Lauren Ingles Wilder published that book at the age of 65 and it became a hit, and then became a hit TV series. Oh, one of my favorites Pedro Pascal became incredibly famous after his thirties, I think it was, because he was like in stuff but he talks about like having to be really frugal. Pedro Pascal put a time limit at one point he was like, I'm not gonna act past the age of 29, like if I haven't made it but now he's 50, now he's like. At the peak of his career. So many opportunities at his doorstep. Lucille Ball became a household name with I Love Lucy at the age of 40. And John Ham was casted in Mad Men at 36 after years of being rejected in Hollywood, which is crazy'cause that was an iconic role and Mad Men was huge. Oprah is often listed, although I would say Oprah like built her career for decades but she didn't really hit that next level status until after she was 50. Brian Cranston while he acted for years got his start in breaking bad at the age of 52. Melissa McCarthy well, she acted as well she really gained her peak fame in bridesmaids at the age of 41 after years in TV and minor roles. Or that one actress, that I love. Michelle Yo she was 60 when she won her Oscar, her first Oscar nomination ever. And she actually won. She's incredible. Amazing. I mean, what are we learning here? We're learning that age is irrelevant when you are dedicated to what you wanna do. I think that's really what we're learning more than anything. Sometimes it is the right place, right time kind of thing. Sometimes it is who you know and other times it's just that you didn't give up. That you didn't just give into that little voice in your head, whoever put it there, whatever put it there. Of the narrative that you're telling yourself that you are no longer a viable option whether it be a job, a dream career, a family, a partner, any kind of major checklist item. The reality is that as long as you believe in yourself, you're capable of reaching it in this lifetime, more than likely. So the next time someone says, aren't you too old for that? Send them this list and block them with love. Now is exactly the right time because I'm ready, because I want it, because I'm gonna put my heart into it because whatever, fill in the blank. Yeah. Unless it's like when I was younger and I used to roll on the ground and pretend I was a like parkour genius. Obviously I wouldn't do that now because I would break my hip, but everything else is fair game. I mean, listen, this is my motto in life. You always have a choice and that choice is yours. Now, the consequences of each choice. You also have to be aware of that, right? If I choose to parkour in the parking lot at 45, that's on you, boo. I'm rolling that ankle girlfriend. So what do we do with all of this? We write our own damn narrative because aging is inevitable but limitation is optional. Instead of I'm too old, reframe it, now is a perfect time. I've never been more ready. I get better with every season. Yes, I am more capable now, more aware now, more honest now, more in touch with who I am now, than I was before so now I get to approach this in an even better version of myself. So you're not too old, you're not too late, you're not behind. This is all about how you wanna live your life and what you decide you wanna do now and just doing it. And you always wanna account for the fact that the person you are when you're in your teenage years and your twenties and sometimes even in your thirties, they're all different versions. And that means it comes with a different bag of wants and needs and joys. Allowing yourself the gift of exploring those things is what life is all about. You wanna lean into exploring these new likes and things that excite you and things that you're inquisitive about. And I think that's what this whole episode kind of encompasses is like, it's never too late for you to try to reach a different goal, but also, like Andy said earlier or just try something new completely, even if you don't like it. Even if you end up saying, well, that was a total waste of time but you gave it a shot. Yeah'cause the outcome doesn't matter. Like, I love doing things now just to learn something new. And that feels fun and exciting for me. There's no real goal with it aside from that is like, I wanna use my brain, I wanna keep it healthy, I wanna keep it happy. And the best way to do that is to train myself how to do new things on a regular basis. To keep challenging myself, and that's enough. And in that I get a lot of joy out of learning new things. And purposeful aging through meaningful goals is associated with longer life, better brain health, improved emotional resilience and greater overall and greater overall satisfaction. So think about that next time. You wanna tell yourself that you are not capable or interested or willing in trying something you actually wanna do. Well said. So whether you're 26 or 66, this is your invitation to stop shrinking yourself based on someone else's expiration date. Let's get one thing straight. You are not too old, too late, too behind or expired because you are not a carton of oat milk sis, you are a whole miracle in progress. Exactly. It's not your age, that's the problem. It's the meaning you've attached to it, and usually that meaning, someone else handed it to you. Tag us with your"Too old to what?" moments. We wanna hear them. Leave a review, share this with someone who needs it, and remember. You're just getting started. Bye. Bye.