The Andi and Mich Podcast

Episode 11 - Introverts Unite (Separately): Hidden Strengths & Surprising Perks

Andi and Mich Episode 11

Do you cancel plans with zero guilt? Rehearse phone calls? Hide in the bathroom at parties for a recharge moment? Then this love letter is for you, dear introvert.

In this episode of Andi & Mich, two sisters, two generations, and way too many unread texts get real about the unexpected perks of being an introvert. From solo coffee rituals and deep convos to sacred recovery routines and pretending to be on a call to avoid small talk—we’re unpacking the quirks, strengths, and misunderstood beauty of introvert life.

We take a fun “How Introverted Are You?” quiz, break down introvert vs. ambivert vs. omnivert, share embarrassing confessions (including a purse-on-fire story), and explore how introverts actually make amazing leaders.

Plus: fictional introverts, surprise celebrity intros, and a rapid-fire game of “Introvert or Just Over It?”

This episode is cozy, hilarious, validating, and a whole lot of yes, that’s me energy.
Whether you're deep in your mind mansion or hiding from group texts, grab your snacks and weighted blanket—you're not alone.

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The Andi and Mich Podcast: Two Sisters, Two Generations, Unique Perspectives, Lots of Laughs

Welcome back to Andy and Mitch, the podcast. Were two sisters, two generations, and way too many unread texts. Come together. If your ideal weekend is canceling plans and staying home, this episode is your love letter. Today we're diving into the unexpected perks of being an introvert. Not the boring dictionary definition of introvert, but the real stuff. Whether you recharge solo, dread, small talk, or have an inner world rich enough to rival your favorite telenovela, this one's for you. Plus we've got a little game, some introvert confessions, and is that an introvert thing or are we just dramatic? Let's dive in. Introverts unite, but separately. In our own homes. Okay, so let's just start here. What actually is an introvert? A relatable definition is introverts are people who typically thrive in their own company. Preferred depth over small talk, and often feel drained after too much socializing. Tend to be deep thinkers, very introspective, self-aware, but at the same time, it's like you can get really overstimulated when there's too much noise, too much activity or high energy settings that you're in for a long period of time. We have to take socializing and other humans in small doses. It's safe to say we're both introverts. You don't think you're an introvert? I'm an omnivert. An omnivert is a person who can be extremely outgoing in some situations and very reserved or introspective in others. You're an ambivert. I actually at heart am an introvert but I think through societal enrichment. AKA responsibilities. I've learned how to be in ambivert. So move between being an introverted state into being an extroverted state, and you can adapt to both environments depending on the situation, your mood or your energy level. So sometimes we do enjoy socializing but at the same time, I also require a need my alone time, so I can thrive in a group, but I prefer solitude. Yes. As where I identify more as an omnivert, which is someone who displays both introverted and extroverted traits, but not necessarily in balance. Rather they swing between the two extremes depending on the situation, the mood or the environment, so they can be adaptable but typically when they are leaning into their extroverted tendencies. It's usually in environments where it's like a very high energetic situation. Alright, let's do a little quiz. How introverted are you? Is the quiz on a scale from social butterfly to please don't call me. So we're gonna answer five questions, yes or no to these five questions. And then we'll tally and see where we land. Let's test this theory if we're really who we think we are. Okay. Question number one, do you get excited when plans get canceled? Yes. Yes, 100% If you wanna cancel, like that's fine, I don't care. Just don't even invite her in the first place. I'll show up but if you tell me that you wanna just stay at home and just chill and watch TV by yourself, I'll be like, okay, cool. See you next month. And also why are extroverts haters? I've heard this before well, it's'cause we always invite you and you never come. Okay but that's my choice, don't be such a hater. Yeah. Okay, question number two. Do you need time alone after hanging out with people you love? Yeah. It depends on the energy the people I love are bringing,'cause if the people I love are bringing a lot of energy and they're like in a good space, I don't need that much rest the next day. But if they're like drained, they're down and out, I need like three days. Where like real extroverts, just kind of keep going, you know? Yeah. Okay. Question number three. Do you rehearse what you're going to say before making a phone call? Not when it's like somebody I'm really close with, like for you or for like, some of my closer people, I won't rehearse, they get what they get. And it doesn't make any sense. They're like trying to decipher me as we go. Yeah. I'm like, why are you calling me right now? But if it's like for people I just met, sometimes I'm like, I'll be like, hey, hey. Hello. Hello. Not necessarily rehearsing what I'm telling them, but I'm rehearsing my introduction. What about you? That's even better. No, I don't rehearse. If it's something that's really important to me that I don't wanna forget but just'cause with age, I tend to forget a lot of things. I'll just kind of make bullet points in my head, make sure you tell them this, this, and this. And then I just wing it from there. And I'm cool with it. Okay. Question number four. Do you feel more alive after a solo coffee run than a crowded brunch? 1000%. Yeah, for sure. There's something just really invigorating and beautiful about going to get coffee by yourself. It's so wonderful, you get to order what you want. You could order a pastry, no one's there to judge you. Sometimes you put on like a real cute outfit and you're just like, man, amazing. Take yourself out'cause you're worth it. Okay. Question number five. Do you pretend to be asleep when someone knocks unexpectedly? We're uncovering some very important information here, especially for Mitch, because you also pretend to be asleep when someone calls you unexpectedly. Sometimes. Oh, I fell asleep. Don't lie to me, I saw your inspirational post of your dog. So if you got zero to one, you're an extroverted icon. Two to three, which is what I got. Three ambivert energy, you're the social chameleon. You just don't book two events in one day. That's true. If you got four classic introvert, you love people just from a comfortable emotional distance. And if you got five, which Mitch did, certified hermit vibes, your spirit animal is a do not disturb sign. Classic. Wow. I love a good quiz. This is why we do them, because it's like just so much wisdom dropped on us real fast. I'm crying. Okay, so I think we've established that you're actually an extrovert turned hermit. And so your hashtag is, I have retired from society, don't me. Mine is I love you but also please leave by eight. Let's get into the good stuff, some of the perks of being an introvert and or tapping into your introvert energy. You recharge solo, which means you're never bored with yourself. That's true, cause we're wildly creative. We have these like, what psychologists refer to as the mind mansion. And true introverts tend to create like a world of their own inside their mind. So because of that, it's like an adventure all the time. All the time with yourself. My mind mansion, she pretty, she's real big. The creative element also comes with like that problem solving brain. So we're always imagining the possibilities and how to like shift and mold and move and change within them. Yeah. Totally. Alright. Deep convos over small talk always. Yes. This is true for all introverts I have met that are actually introverts. We prefer real information and real conversation versus like superficial connection. We're looking for like, let's unpack this meaning of life right now. In the next 10 minutes. And I know we just met. It's true, introversion isn't the same as shyness and a lot of people conflate the two. Yeah. And as a true introvert, I don't like small talk, and we've talked about this before, but like. I had to learn how to become good at it by the nature of what I do and being a professional. But it's a boring af to me and like I wanna hear something real. I wanna have like a real good conversation with people, even if it's a short one. Yes. And I'm okay with like small talk a little, but it has to have some depth at some point. Otherwise I just tune you out. Boundaries come naturally, you just don't play fake. Yeah,'cause we have to set them all world die. As a hermit I'll shrivel up. If we don't set the boundaries, we, you will drain us to death, like energy vampires and we will die. It's a survival instinct basically. Are you fake? I gotta go. Like all of a sudden I can't breathe. I can't breathe around you. Like, oh God, does anybody else feeling like they wanna throw up? You observe everything, you are a human lie detector. Yes and for a long time I didn't realize that this was an introvert superpower, but also part of like my personality superpower. Until I met other people who were older and more established. Who taught me this lesson that like I engage with others, using much more than just language, language is like the last thing I'm really paying attention to. Mm-hmm. And I think this is true for human engagement, but especially for certain personality types, it's everything. Like we're feeling the energy of the room and I always thought, oh, that's silly. And I wouldn't talk about it too much out loud until a mentor I had was like, no, this is a superpower. This is part of how you engage in the world and how you take in information and you're paying attention to all the things that people are not saying. Yeah and introverts are often really great listeners. That is one of the elements that makes it a superpower, we're so incredibly in tune that's where we catch the errors. Like one of the greatest things that our father told me. If you really wanna know who somebody is, just listen to them. They will tell you exactly who they are and exactly what they want, people will always tell you and show you who they are, coupled together. That's part of why we are the human lie detectors that we are, we critically think and analyze things and then we respond. Yeah and I'll notice like an inflection in the way somebody's talking. Like the pitch goes up and down, the breath may change, the eye movement changes. And I'm like, Hmm, notice that. What does that mean? I think sometimes I'm like that. I rely heavily on patterns, so I won't just think like in the moment that maybe something's different. Is this something that they do over a consistent amount of time? Where I'm being hypervigilant but it's like a feeling, like I actually feel it on my skin sometimes. My brain just goes, something's weird. And again, if you're in tune, you can notice that stuff easy. And the more you pay attention, the easier it is for you to catch. Social media breaks are self-care, not strategy. So social media for me can feel a lot like going to a large event or being around a lot of people. Because it's too much, too fast and it can become overwhelming and the feeling is the same. So if I am taking a break from social media, it's not because I'm trying to practice some strategy, it's just that I actually need to step away. I know sometimes it can be overwhelming with social media, especially depending on what your algorithm is feeding you, it's like, oh, I gotta put my phone away, like forever, I think. Or sometimes I just get a bunch of people cooking things like grandma's making their dishes. And I'm like, this is so soothing. Your home is a Sacred Haven, candles, blankets, and snacks. Yes. I was gonna say, I don't have candles. But I do have blankets and snacks and like a lot of them. For sure. We just bought a whole bag of snacks. That's true. Just for this podcast. Yeah, 100% my favorite place in my home is my bed. Like, it's so cozy. I love watching TV in bed, and I have a bed that like adjusts, so I can sit up and I get real comfy, put my legs up, get my cozy weighted blanket and I can stay there all day long. That's like my perfect introvert recovery space. You're like the queen of cozy. There's a meme that says, I pay so much in rent, i'm gonna enjoy every aspect of my home. This is my home. I should be able to have time with it alone, leave me be people. What about people feel safe around you because you're a good listener. I would say yes. And also on a friendship level, like introverts tend to build fewer but deeper friendships, so they don't have as many close friends, but their closest friends tend to be much deeper than the average friendship. In the same vein of what you're talking about,'cause you mentioned this earlier in our previous conversation, because of an introvert's ability to be a good listener and to be able to take information in quietly, they also make great leaders. According to Harvard Business School introverted leaders often deliver better outcomes, especially when leading proactive teams'cause they're more likely to listen and encourage others' ideas and allow others to take up space. Introverted leaders often outperform extroverted ones, especially when they build these proactive teams. And the main reason is because they do not feel that they need to dominate any space, which gives their team the ability to grow. 100% I don't need to be the center of attention. I need my team to feel like they can be the best that they can be in the space and know that they're supported. I do believe if you give people the space, they will rise to the occasion. And it's because they want to. Not because they feel like they have to or you're forcing them to. And when they can do it that way, it tends to be very creative. You tend to get so many great things out of your people when you give them the space to be able to do it right? And leaders who need to be the center of attention or need to be, very commanding at the top of a hierarchy, don't get that same kind of loyalty and response and output from the people that work for them. And I can say that people that tend to feel like they need to consistently control or micromanage, fall short often. Yeah. It's not worth that. And the quiet, strong leaders who know that they can instill great values and help people reach their best potential by allowing them to shine and to do the work and grow at their own pace. They're the most memorable, that's for sure. And they tend to be the ones that leave and instill values in others so that they can maybe even follow the path and become great leaders themselves. Great leaders make great leaders. We should put that on a piece of wood and hang it. I'm gonna put it on a t-shirt. In the same vein of what you were just talking about, Mitch, introverts are often loyal AF friends. Too loyal. Sometimes to a fault that could, this could be the shadow side of introversion sometimes. Because we don't wanna walk away and we've already invested in you. We've invested in this friendship. It means something to us. So it's not something that we're just willing to throw away and move on to do the work again, to find a new friend because it's a lot of work. I totally agree with you. And another thing that's really important for people to take into consideration is that building long lasting friendships with introverts are worth it but they do take time. Many introverts describe finding a true friend as finally being able to exhale. They really quite often find it hard to open up to people because they can't really trust them right away. But once they do trust you, you have a friend for life. Also I will second, the, like it takes a long time for us to give you trust because I have friends that I've had friendships with for over five years, maybe a decade or more, and there's still things they don't know about me. So because they haven't reached that level yet, it's like a video game. Alright. As an introvert, you are selectively social and that is a flex. I really think that this is a superpower because, being selectively social means that you put premiums on the relationships you invest in. And so I think it's a superpower to be the kind of person that puts a lot of initiative and intention in the way that they choose to love and show up for the people that they are rooting for and that they enjoy being around. Another thing about an introvert is that when they choose to show up for you, they usually don't show up and half ass it. They're showing up because they can be present in the moment. I agree if I'm showing up, I'm gonna give you a hundred percent of what I've got that day. Now mind you, that a hundred percent might just be 35% of my normal functioning, but that's okay, i'm gonna give you all that, 35%. 35% is a lot. Because I've made a choice. I've actually left my home, put real clothes on makeup and probably some sort of heel or platform shoe. And I'm about to be real uncomfortable for you because I care about you and I'm here. I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna give you my best. I'm gonna slide on my ambivert scale. And then I'm gonna go home and be a hermit for two days following. So since we're talking about introverts, I wanna talk about some introverted characters from books, tv, and film. Frodo Baggins as an introvert. Yeah, I can see that. So Sam Wise an extrovert. Yes. Frodo is sensitive and thoughtful. Frodo is not a natural leader or warrior but he bears an enormous burden with quiet resilience. Another classic introvert on TV, Lisa Simpson from The Simpsons intellectual, misunderstood, and the Happiest with a saxophone or a book. And Bart is the extrovert. Yes. Now someone that's a little bit more complex. Dexter Morgan from Dexter. he was also a serial. He was also a sociopath. Moral morally complex, ultra private and always inside his own head, though. Definitely on the darker end of the introvert scale. Yeah. You think so? So for movies, Ameli? Shy, quirky and full of wonder, ameli changes lives quietly, never craving attention, just connection. Literally one of the best movies ever, if you've never seen Ameli, please go watch it. Bruce Banner, the Hulk from the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Reserved and Cerebral, banner prefers science to social science until provoked. Yeah, I think mark Ruffo, who's the actor that plays the more recent, Bruce Banner and Hulk does a really good job of showing his character as more of an introvert. No team only, only Hulk. Yeah and it does say until provoked, which. It does make you kind of take pause and like, wait, can introverts be angry? Yes, they can. Okay, remy from Rati. Uh, love Remy. A rat with a passion for cooking who keeps to himself for obvious reasons. Remy works best in solitude and prefers to let his work speak for himself. Well, here's the thing about Remy is that he has such an awareness that nobody else in his community has he's like a little bit more evolved. It's actually one of my most favorite Disney movies. You love that movie. And last but not least, Shrek from Shrek. Is he an introvert or a hermit? He is a hermit, cranky and solitary by choice. Shrek just wants his swamp back, but like many introverts, he ends up forming meaningful bonds, even though he was extremely reluctant. Alright, sometimes it's kind of hard to tell if things that we're doing or specific scenarios are us being introverted or us just being over it because it's a fine line between the two, right? Behavior analysis, is it classic introvert behavior or are these just moments that we're just done with people? Leaves a party without saying goodbye. Have you ever done this? Yeah, a few times. I have too but I will put minimal effort into finding the host. If I know the host or if there's people that I need to say goodbye to. And if it's gonna take too much effort to go track them down, then I'm just like, I'm just gonna go. Yeah, if they're around a lot of people or talking, I almost feel like I'm not important enough to go interrupt them. And so I'm like, I'll just leave and I'll just see them later. And it has been brought to my attention after the fact that people thought I was really rude. So that was a learning lesson for me. There's been times where I've showed up to things and didn't even say hi or bye. I've just been there. And then they've seen me, but they didn't get a chance to say hi to me or bye to me, and I've just left. I think true introverts would be like, I didn't even go to the party to begin with. I have a lot of those as well where I'm like, yeah, for sure, i'm going. And then I can't get myself to go. And explaining that to someone is really hard sometimes because I feel like I let them down. Mm-hmm. And then I'm like I just couldn't I think in general, if you're leaving a party without saying goodbye, you're probably just over it at that point in time. I'm gonna say it's'cause you're introverted. Yeah. Okay. Brings noise canceling headphones to brunch. That's just rude. If there's no instance of neurodivergence then, then it is just you being a jackass. I don't think I've ever been to brunch or dinner with somebody who's like, put headphones on. Yeah. I would just leave. The idea of a brunch is to go socialize and to be in an environment where there's a lot of people socializing and having a good time. So if you show up and you have anything to distract you and or mute the people you're with, then you're forced to be there. That's wild. I already get peeved when people are on their phone the entire time. It's like, why am I here? I didn't come here to watch you. True. Alright. Tells the group chat. Sorry I missed this, but did see the message three days ago. Guilty. Yeah, I am too. Sometimes I forget that people can see like read by, you know? Other times I just, I see it and I'm in the middle of doing stuff and then before I know it, like the day is gone and I've completely forgot and it's like, oh, well it's too late now, you know? Yeah, they can only see if you've had your red receipts on. I think. Yeah. It depends on what platform you're on. I think I'm actually highly responsive. It's usually just when I'm very busy that I will miss messages because I'm pretty responsive, but on occasion I do this. Sometimes, like if I am in a recharge day and I see it and I am like, I just don't have the energy yet but I'll get there. I'm recharging right now, like, boop, boop, boop. Like, I'm not there yet, you know? I'm on life support at the moment, emotional life support. As soon as I get off the life support then I'm like, okay, now I, I have the head space. I can engage. I think it's situationally just over it. Schedules alone, time, like it's a meeting. I think that means you're over it. Yeah. I don't know. I think that means you're depressed. Or it means you're really needing to work on some boundaries. Yeah, because I feel like introvert's natural state is being alone and it's actually scheduling interactions. Yeah. So if you're scheduling alone time, like it's a meeting, then you do not have boundaries and you're letting people like override your life. And or you're a work in progress and you're trying to figure it out. I think it just means you're overwhelmed. Has one friend who knows everything and 12 who know nothing. Introvert. Introvert. I have like a couple friends that know a lot about me. Yeah. And I cherish and value them forever'cause we're gonna die with each other's secrets, because I know a lot about them too. Like we said earlier Right. You have to build up trust. So I do think there are a lot of parts of my life that people don't know, but it's intentional. Like I haven't built enough trust with you to share those things. I also think some friendships don't need to know everything about you. Yeah. I've learned that over the years is like some friendships have their levels of depth and it's not that they're not friends, it's just like they're like at level one. Will they ever reach level nine? Probably not. You know? But that's okay. A lot of people will subsequently label them as like acquaintances, right? Because maybe they have different values about what they identify a friend as. So I think in that respect, yeah. I'm very conscientious about what I share and I'm working on that. Okay. Cancels plans and feels zero guilt. Mm-hmm. I think that means you're just over it. Yeah. I've spoken as a true hermit over there, Mitch. I think that means you're just over it because you said yourself. Yeah. Introverts sometimes can feel guilty'cause it's not that they don't want to, it's just that they just don't have the capacity for it. This is a good example of being just over, is okay. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it just is what it is like let's just call a spade a spade. I'm not saying no because I'm an introvert, i'm saying no because I'm setting a hard line and I'm over it. Most people have a little guilt. Obviously they invited you'cause they really want you there. Or maybe if that's the dynamic, you feel a little guilt and you're like, oh, I can't make it. Right. But the zero guilt part is like, oh, they don't like you. Okay, last one. Hangs out but needs 72 hours to recover. Introvert. Introvert. That is 100% introvert thing. And I do think that with age, that time has extended. I think before maybe I just needed like a few hours, and now it's like, I'll contact you in three to five business days. Don't text me, don't call me. I will let you know in three to five business days if I'm still alive. I'm gonna hit you up and make sure you got home okay and then I'm not gonna talk to you for a week because I'm a caring person. Alright. Have you ever done any of these introverted confessions? So these are like moments from our peeps where introvert energy is just too real. Pretending to be on a call to avoid small talk? Yeah, I did this at the market and my phone rang. While you were pretending to be on a call, you need to silence that. I didn't think it through. This guy started talking to me and I was like, oh yeah, one second. And I grabbed my phone, like if it was on silence, and I started talking, trying to get out of the situation and then the phone rang and his face. Awkward. His face was like, wow. And I didn't know what to do. So I froze for a second, and I just walked away. I handled it so poorly and I felt so bad for the guy because he looked so like, what? I wasn't in the energy space to like have a stranger approach me. To engage. Sometimes you just gotta run. How about you? Sadly and it's not current, it is like a past job. I used to do this a lot to avoid talking to my coworkers. I love that. Because I just needed a break and I'm like, please don't talk to me. I'm like walking outside, enjoying the walking path or whatever and everybody thinks like, this is a perfect time for you to talk to me. No, don't talk to me, right now I'm in my time, my zone. So I would have to pretend I was on the phone if I saw people coming my direction. And then that you do the, just the wave like, oh hey, and then keep going. Because they see you and you point to the phone, like all dramatic like, look, I'm on the phone right now so you can't talk to me. And then as soon as they were out of like sight, I would like put it back down. That's wonderful. And then keep going about my day. When you're an introvert and you go to events where people will hide at the event to try to get a little recharge boost. Before they continue on the night'cause you can't go home yet. I've done that. Have you done it in the bathroom? Like, I won't hide in a bathroom. I have, yeah. I've hidden it in the bathroom. Did the bathroom have a lounge? No, no, no, no. Just you just sat on the toilet. Okay. It was a friend of a friend's house, they were throwing like a show and it was like a artsy fartsy show a lot of like very particular kinds of LA people. I was very overwhelmed because a lot of the conversations were surface level talking about what they were doing in movies and film. So I hid in the bathroom and they had a candle on, I put my purse down and I sat on the bathroom toilet and I just started to do my makeup, and then I see smoke coming from my purse and I burnt a hole through my leather bag because my leather bag lit on fire in their bathroom. The fire alarm did not go off'cause I snuffed it super quick but then I quickly got out of the bathroom and then somebody was like, was somebody smoking? Oh my God. Like I was but in reality I was just like humming to myself doing my makeup and my purse caught on fire. I haven't, so, yes. I don't like being in bathrooms. People always talk to me in the bathroom and I'm like, this is just really not the place for us to have a conversation right now. And I don't wanna be rude, I'll usually try to find a space that maybe that's outside or something like that, and I'll go outside but then people are everywhere, so it's hard to avoid. I do write texts sometimes, delete'em, write'em again, delete it, and then never send it. Like, should I engage? No, wait, no yet. No. Yeah, no, no. That's like pretending to be on a call. Same thing, just different method. And then at this point in my life, I just forget at one point and then I move on and then I'll see like a half written text. Why was I sending her a brisket recipe. Or it's like a half idea. I never sent the other half of the text. They're like, what? What does this, what does this mean? Okay. Order delivering to avoid talking to anyone. Yeah. Yeah. I do that. Especially if I'm just really burnt out and then I'm like, leave it at the door. It pisses me off when I tell a delivery person in my notes it's very clear, do not ring my doorbell. Do not disturb. And they do it anyway. And they do it anyways and they don't leave. Meanwhile, I don't care if they like ring your doorbell'cause I never order here. Oh, you don't care, they ring my doorbell. That's so funny. Don't do it. And then last sitting in the car for 30 minutes after arriving somewhere to mentally prepare. This actually adds to one of the reasons why I'm late sometimes I'm mentally preparing, okay. It's a 45 minute preparation. It's something necessary for all of us. Well, here's the thing, you're already late and then on top of it, you add the 30 minutes. So before you know it, an hour and a half has gone by. I've done this, but it's only I think if it's really somewhere that I just don't wanna be. And I'm not in the right head space for it or it's around people I don't wanna be around necessarily. Then I have to like mentally prepare, because remember I'm an introvert, but there is a John Wick side to me. And I could fly off the handle at any moment. So sometimes I'm like, no, this is your friend's wedding and you will behave. I have to give myself a pep talk even though you despise the man that she's marrying. That is not your problem and it's none of your business. And you will be supportive and you will smile, and you will laugh, and you will have a good time. And the second I get in there, I'm like, no fucking talk to me. Piece of shit. Oh shit. Did I say that out loud? Yeah. My inner thoughts, we got my outer thoughts and it's the whole thing. You're all talking to their grandma. She's like, what? She's like, that's my grandson. Like, well, what a shame. You did a horrible job. Shame on you. Yeah. So sometimes it's that kind of mental preparation, like I have to check myself. Yeah. And like, get ready, you know? No, I don't. If I'm going to do something with people, I like being around and like certain friends and family, like it's gonna be a good time. So I'm fine, I don't need to prepare. Sometimes it's a wild ride and it's not what I ask for, but it is what it is. If it's my close, close circle, which is only five people, then I'm fine. But if it's with people that are not those five people, then i'm preparing, I gotta prepare, gotta prepare. And this is for my safety, not yours. It's for everyone involved. I really wanna hear people's like iconic introvert moments that are like funny and dramatic, maybe even healing. So if you've got one, send it to us. As an introvert, what I find fascinating are introverts who are also super independent and will like travel solo, like go on vacation. Like Anthony Bourdain. Yeah. That's real introvert life, nevermind the 27 people in this production crew. Wait, wait, no, no, no. The one dude that would always be in nature that you guys would watch all the time and he would be like hanging off cliffs. Bear girls. Yes. He would get covered by avalanches, he'd be like This how you survive in the avalanche get naked. Yeah. And you're like, what is this fool doing? That dude is introverted. He's quirky. He's a solo child. He's a single child for sure. 1000%. As an introvert who has developed confidence in myself. I enjoy a solo coffee run. Sometimes a nice sit down lunch, I'll do that. Go to a movie by myself. I'll do that. Take a full on like two week vacation in another country alone probably not. When you're solo vacationing without telling anyone, like, that's kind of wild. But like going up to the mountains, I had done that for many, many moons, that was like my thing. I would go up to the mountains by myself with my camera. I would go to ghost towns by myself sometimes. I went hiking in the snow a few times by myself. None of these things I would advise. So what's your recharge ritual? After a long social day? I'll get Chinese food, I'll put on a good movie, I'll put on a good record, whatever it might be and I just chill out and check out. Or sometimes I game because I'm a gamer as well. I don't know if they're healthy coping mechanisms. I think some of them are. What about you? Number one, I'm very quiet. I don't wanna talk to anybody. Sorry to my loved ones who sometimes get that side of me, but they'll be like, oh my God, tell us about everything you did today and I'm like, no. Try again tomorrow. I go upstairs to my bed'cause that's my favorite place. I'll get super cozy. Get myself some snackies, something to drink. The goal is to like, not have to leave the bed, you know? Yeah. So I'll bring everything with me that I think I need, including Advil, and then I'll watch some tv. And it depends, like sometimes if I'm feeling really drained, I love a good HGTV show because there's something really nice about watching them complete something. Like a project and be creative. And I really love watching those, or something funny, like I'll need something funny that I can watch that's entertaining, but not too serious. I want it to be simple. So it really just depends on mood. Sometimes I'll just listen to music. Interestingly enough, I don't read after a long day. Me either. Because I do feel like my creativity gets a little tapped too. And you do need to tap in your creative brain when you read to really enjoy it. I also like a good shower. There's something very cleansing about water and just kind of like washing away the day of exhaustion. I also enjoy, apparently I have a lot of rituals. Maybe a mask. Maybe an eye mask. Doing your nighttime routine. Like nighttime routine. A little self-care so I can be refreshed. My family knows that when they see me get super cozy and they can see my whole setup they're like uhoh, she's done for the day. That's good. That's love right there. Who are some, surprisingly introverted celebrities? What about, our fan favorite, dark, mysterious, but cool guy Keanu Reeves, John Wick. I love Keanu Reeves. I think we said this earlier. Yes. One of my favorites ever. Keanu Reeves actor, obviously very well known, and famously known for his privacy and also his kindness. I almost feel like John Wick is probably really close to his personality. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Meryl Streep actor love her, known for depth, privacy and introspection. Joaquin Phoenix, another great actor avoids the spotlight and often discusses his discomfort with fame. One of them that I'm really surprised with is Tom Hanks. It states that he's like very observant and I could see that given like some of the roles he's played. Yeah. And he, loves being a homebody. I mean, his wife is wonderful. Harrison Ford. Yeah. Fan favorite, personal favorite. He's the epitome of, I'm just over it. There's a episode where he had David Blaine in his house doing Magic. Everyone watch that, it is the most entertaining and funniest thing ever and he's unapologetic, he's like, get the hell outta my house you're a witch. I also love David Blaine, but he's clearly an extrovert. No, David Blaine's an introvert. No. Yeah, 100% if you watch his new show, it's on National Geographic, where he travels to different countries to see like magic and then he tries new things. You get a little more of his personality and he is an introvert. He was alone a lot and he appreciates his quiet time and his solitude. Very interesting. Another one that really surprised me, Barack Obama. I'm not surprised by that. Really, I would imagine because he's so charismatic, that he's just always energized around people. I just imagined him growing up and being that social guy. Mm-hmm. That like could just be in any space and like, you know. I could see that, that person is probably Michelle Obama. More extrovert. More extroverted, but she has strong boundaries. She has this energy to her that's like so exciting and nice and I think with Barack, he seems like he's more of the kind of person that's in his head, critical thinker, consistently like observant. And Barack has been quoted as saying that he's more reflective and likes his quiet time and that Michelle is the social one. Michelle, she just has this like beautiful energy. She commands a space, she commands a room. I love her. She's a great role model. and I love seeing her in pop culture more because I think her presence is so powerful. And yeah, so she's one extrovert I give two thumbs up too. Big fan, big fan. Introverts are kind of like emotional ninjas. We are quiet, powerful, and observant. So I think even if you know how to tap into your introvert energy. You can tap into all of these cool things. And we have a range. I could go from analyzing the meaning of life to ignoring a phone call in 0.2 seconds. Alright. Well, thanks for joining us today. And always remember if you're an introvert, it's a superpower. Your energy doesn't need to be loud to be powerful. Embrace the quiet, protect your peace, and never feel bad for choosing yourself. Whether you're a cozy homebody, or a social butterfly in disguise, being an introvert is a gift. It's soft power, it's presence, and it's real. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, share, and leave us a review. It helps more people find the pod and keep the conversation going. Until next time. Bye bye.