Episode 2: Astrology Unlocked, Our Top 3

What do your sun, moon, and rising signs really say about you—and can birth charts actually help you understand yourself better? In this episode of Andi & Mich, we’re getting curious (and a little cosmic) as we explore astrology from a grounded, real-life lens.

We share personal stories about how astrology has shown up in our lives—from watching Walter Mercado with our abuelita to late-night conversations about love, purpose, and identity. Then we break down our full Big Three (Sun, Moon, and Rising signs), reflect on what resonated (and what made us say “ouch, too real”), and laugh our way through the shadow sides of each sign.

Whether you’re a horoscope junkie, a skeptical spiritual dabbler, or just astrology-curious, this episode is packed with relatable insights, sisterly banter, and an honest look at how the stars might help us reconnect with who we are—and who we’re becoming.

✨ Topics We Explore:

• What astrology actually is (and isn’t)
• The difference between sun, moon, and rising signs
• How our cultural upbringing shaped our views on astrology
• Walter Mercado, retro Cosmo horoscopes & metaphysical bookstores
• Our Big Three: Aquarius, Scorpio, Taurus, Pisces, and Cancer placements
• The “shadow side” of each sign and how to work with it, not against it
• Using astrology as a tool for reflection, self-awareness, and connection

💫 This episode is for you if:

• You’re a 90s baby who grew up with horoscopes in Cosmo
• You’re secretly into astrology but low-key skeptical
• You’ve ever blamed Mercury Retrograde for everything
• You want to learn how your chart can deepen your self-understanding
• You’re ready to laugh, reflect, and maybe run your chart for your kid, too

🔮 Bonus: We share a super accessible astrology podcast rec for beginners and chat about how you can use your chart to deepen relationships with partners, friends, or even your teen.

🎧 Listen now and tell us your Big 3!
Tag us on Instagram [@andiandmich] and let us know what resonated most—your inner rebel, your emotional sponge, or your velvet-glove energy.

Resources we like:

Astrology for Beginners https://open.spotify.com/show/6lW4P8N4zyaOxfQNkZptLF

https://www.instagram.com/esoteric_esa

https://www.instagram.com/moon_chola

Two Sisters. Two Generations. Lots of Laughs.

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-Andi and Mich

The Andi and Mich Podcast: Two Sisters, Two Generations, Unique Perspectives, Lots of Laughs

Transcript

Carmen Brown-1: 0:46

Hi everybody. We're so glad you're here. I'm actually really excited to dive into this topic a little bit with Mitch, because I think we talk about astrology sometimes. We were curious to do a little bit more of a deep dive and learn about our birth charts. We did do some research and we wanna talk about some of the basics. And I think a good place to start as we sip our coffees and explore this is to think about, where did astrology start? How do we get to this place where we feel really curious about it? We use it. It's like very common nowadays. It is. Astrology has been influential in human lives for. Decades it roots back to ancient civilizations like the Egyptians and the Greeks. And really it's just the observation of the sky and the connection of celestial phenomena with earthly events and how that ties into us. Yeah, it's very interesting how astrology has been around for so long, and if you're a history guru or you watch the History Channel, where they talk about the connections across the world. And how ancient civilizations used to use stars and star charts to determine how they were gonna grow their crops, how they were gonna live their lives, what they could expect, how to practice and worship, and all the things of their life were tied around this. That's super fascinating Folks who are really into astrology might do that. Like the deep, divers. Deep divers, but as it's used generally not so much. Today it's really less about predicting. Your fate or your ability to grow crops, and it's used as a self-reflection tool or common language to talk about things safely around spirituality and beliefs that might feel a little woo. I find that younger generations tend to ask me more. What my sign is then maybe people from my generation or generations before me I think people from my generation shout out to Gen Xers'cause we're rad and we rock. We dabbled in it, but we didn't fully do such a deep dive'cause it wasn't as mainstream, we kinda were curious but with a little bit of skepticism. I feel like I have a bit of a skewed understanding of astrology and its take in my life. And I think you might actually relate to this too, we were exposed to this early on by our father who used to take us as really rad bookstore and they had a lot of astrology based things, crystals, rocks, healing stuff. It was a very like metaphysical spiritual bookstore. Yeah. And so to be there at such a young age and to be exposed to that, not necessarily sitting down and getting my astrology read surrounded by people who are really open to that kind of stuff, you would think I would be really into it. I'm not really that into it, but I'm curious for sure. And sometimes I read it and I'm like, that's totally me. And then other times I read it and I'm like, yeah, they don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, I do remember that. Astrology first came about to me before that, like probably before you were born is sitting with grandma and mom. And all the tias watching Walter Mecado. Do his horoscope readings on tv. That was such a big deal. He was such a huge personality and he was so vibrant but also he preached a lot about how to connect with spirituality and how to love yourself and how to just be yourself. And so I think it became more acceptable, but people were so into it, you'd go to church on Saturday and Sunday and Wednesday, but you would never Ms. Walter Mercado at the same time. Like my grandma sometimes would call and tell me. What was in the horoscope and then say, don't go do this because the horoscope said this about X, Y, and Z. And I was like, okay which is that like curious skepticism just in case. I'm gonna change my plans. I will put salt outside of the door. Yeah. Yeah. Me rotary dialing up my friends because that was way back when. And we were also poor, so we had older things, to say yeah, I don't think we should go out today because my grandma told me that, told Walter Mercado's horoscope was not in my favor today. So I'm just gonna stay home. I never experienced that, but I definitely would see them like in Cosmos and I thought, they were really cool. Very neat designs. I think I was more fascinated by the design pages. Shout out to Retro Cosmo from the nineties. And at this particular time I was younger looking for a sense of self, trying to figure out who I was and all that stuff. It really spoke to me again, sometimes it wasn't always accurate. It's interesting to reflect back How this plays out culturally. Not only our ethnic culture, but how pop culture has embraced it differently. To use it almost like a personality quiz to see and that's how we used it for this when we were looking up our stuffs, like just feeling really curious. About what the chart says and if we agree or disagree. Based on how we think we see ourselves and and what we know of ourselves. It's not as much of a spiritual guidance tool for me. I, am very much into woowoo and spirituality, but I think I've always gravitated towards other things and not as much toward deep dive into astrology. What made you feel curious about wanting to read your birth chart? I have you read it before? I've dabbled, but I didn't know what time I was born. So it was always just a shot in the dark. So today I think it was pretty interesting to see, different aspects of my personality that I wouldn't necessarily highlight as strengths And it is really relevant to the person that I've evolved into. So I would say I probably should have read this sooner in life. It would've made different choices. Oh yeah. So I think my interest in astrology really is just finding those reflective points that kind of help me identify my values and some of the parts that I parts of me that I enjoy. It's almost like a low stakes way to dabble in spirituality beyond what maybe we know is more mainstream. We were raised in a Catholic household everyone has different belief systems that they were brought up with, but for a long time, these ideas of understanding personality and your fate written in the stars would've been considered crazy talk but I think because we've had a different style upbringing, like we were raised in a semi Catholic household, our father was a little bit more free-spirited, did believe in a lot of Buddhist beliefs. And then he would take us to those kind of places like Alexandra's Bookstore, because we had that open window into these other parts. And not just that our culture, right? I think those kind of things kept me open. So I would come back to astrology as oh, I'm just curious the stars exist. They're above us. They're all around us. We can physically see them. And from a scientific perspective, I don't know, do I really believe in astrology? I'm not sure, but I do believe in, magic. And wonder and I believe in the awe of the universe and I'm not gonna discount it. Yeah, absolutely. There's gotta be stuff about the stars and alignments and things that are true and real. Because this is a huge part of our existence. I started doing a little research for this episode, and I found this really cool podcast. I'm not a, I'm not connected to it, I don't get anything for it, but it's astrology for beginners And she gives you the breakdown of how to read your chart and astrology and what it means. She talked about the big three, and these are probably the most common ones In previous decades, people would only talk about their sun sign. Which is your core identity, this is who you are at your essence and who you are internally. It's how you see yourself we're also gonna look at the moon sign, which is your emotions, your inner world, and this is your heart space. And then we're also gonna talk about Rising sign, which is how others see you. This is your vibe or the mask you wear to show the world, like how you show up in the world, how your friends see you, your coworkers see you. What's really interesting is as I, was listening to the podcast, she was talking about how the rising sign is actually one of the most important because it can be reflective of how you're actually showing up in the world. And so it's really interesting to look at that and compare to how you think you're showing up in the world. All right, so we're gonna review Andy's. Andy's sun is an Aquarius. I'm an Aquarius cusp, and I did not look that up. I should have, but I was born on the last day of Aquarius, first day of Pisces. So if you're born in the morning, you're an Aquarius. If you're born at night. You're a Pisces. And I think that also contributes to The chaos that is me. Very eclectic. Yes. So Aquarius. Is the sign of the visionary, the innovator, and the rebel with a cause. That's right. Your Sun in Aquarius means at your core, you are independent and forward thinking. Drawn to progressive ideas and equality. This is true. I do agree with all that. You are someone who thrives on authenticity and originality. You challenge outdated norms and seek unconventional paths. You often feel more like part of a collective mission than someone focused solely on self gain. And there's also a cool detachment to your vibe. You like your personal space and aren't one for emotional drama. All of that I agree with. All righty. The cool at detachment that made me laugh to my vibe. Yeah. It's really funny because I'm very private. I'm just here for the vibes and if the vibes aren't cool, I'm leaving. Because I don't, I actually don't wanna be involved in drama. And if there's a lot of drama, I'm out. Yeah. Audi 5,000, you will not see me. This is true. Your identity is deeply tied to community, friendship and your hopes for a better future. You are a optimist. Not so secretly she's an optimist. You're likely a connector, a group leader or someone whose mission is to help others awaken their uniqueness. Absolutely.'cause you're a mentor, you actually lead groups of people and you teach them about themselves how to strengthen already existing characteristics and so that's really cool. Yeah. And I, feel naturally drawn to that. I think it just flows for me. I didn't see myself like that for many years. People would see me that way or mention it to me and they'd be like, yeah, no, that's not my deal. But that was just me being in denial about life. Once I started leading and coaching and doing more things, it felt very natural. Yeah, I can see that. So it makes sense. So 100% sun in Aquarius? Yes, ma'am. Yes. Check plus. All right, so we're moving on a moon in Scorpio now, this was super surprising. I don't have any qualms with Scorpio. I know a lot of people do. I personally don't. I think Scorpios are wonderful. One of my greatest friends is a Scorpio, and he is wonderful. So the moon in Scorpio is powerful, intense, and emotionally deep. You feel things profoundly, even if you don't always show it. Yep. Yeah, that's true. She does not show it. I don't show it. Yeah, I've actually been told that my heart is cold as ice. No, and it's not'cause it is, but it's just because I don't outwardly express emotions and vulnerability. As easily as many would. Yes. I would say it's not that you don't at all, but you are very guarded with that, and I'm careful where I do that. Yeah, Also, trauma and professionalism, and when you mix those two together, bing, bang, boom, your emotional world is passionate, loyal and protective, even intuitive and psychic at times. Yes. 100% check mark with an exclamation point, prone to transformation, rebirth, and emotional intensity. I don't see the emotional intensity part. I can see the transformation and rebirth element in the way that you lead others and you like to inspire others to connect with their most, authentic selves. So I would say, yeah, in a way you're not one for surface level relationships, friendships, conversations. No coffee. It's true. I'm like literally terrible at small talk. Yeah. I have had to learn and listen, it's taken years to learn Like even my partner laughs at me because he's so good at. If you're not gonna tell me some deep, dark secret, I like don't wanna talk to you. While you think you're bad at it. I actually think you're really good at it. I just think you have a threshold limit. So I think you're really good at it. But if they go past a certain point where you're realizing that they are not there as their authentic, truest version of themselves, or they are just not being genuine. I think your, threshold is like 10 minute tops. Thank you. But I'm pretty sure it's just practice. And honestly, I learned a lot of that from my partner. Yeah. So two decades over two and a half decades. Of watching him move so easily in the world with people. Made it easier for me to do it over time. But I have learned so I can. Make my way through interactions and have moments of small talk, I, dunno if you notice, but I try to make it more meaningful. Yeah. Yeah. When I ask people questions I, do ask them personal things and they don't even know me. And I think that's why you make them pretty comfortable.'cause when you're asking with intention. So it's not just like a, Hey, how's your day going? You'll ask them like, Hey, I really that sweater and that color blue is. Is there any particular meaning behind the reason why you and you're like, can we get outta here please? Why are you lingering? I'm like, don't make eye contact with them. And I'm like, I love your purse. It's so cool. Where'd you get it from? How long have you lived here? Whenever we visit places I'll always ask people if they're local because it will spark up conversation that feels deeper to me than like the superficial small talk. So, when you do small talk, you do it with intention. Do you think your moon sign reflects your emotional patterns? In Scorpio? Yes. Okay. But I was surprised because I would not have guessed it. I would've guessed probably more of a Pisces. I am very emotional, even though I'm not outwardly emotional. I'm like on an emotional rollercoaster all the time and I have a lot of big feelings, but when I read Scorpio, I was like, oh, that actually makes more sense because I am very protective. Remember I said I'm very private, I'm very protective of myself. People I love and care about, like I become real fierce mama bear, which makes sense because I'm a scorpion. I'm gonna sting you, right? But also I am cautious when I let other people in, and I don't like to live on the surface level with people. it made more sense to me than I thought it would, but I was surprised. I agree with you. I was surprised at first, but then I was like no, because again, one of the better people that I know that is a Scorpio, is, wonderful. So when I read, oh, Scorpio really? And then I thought, oh no. Yeah, that kind of makes perfect sense. Yeah, it's also in my sixth house, which means like my emotional wellbeing is tied to my sense of purpose and work. So my work has to be meaningful and I have to feel like I'm helping others. Okay. And that made sense to me too. I was like, oh yeah, Because if I don't have a connection to a purpose and there's not meaning in what I'm doing, it's very difficult for me to stay in it. Let's go down to Ascendant Rising in Taurus. Now, this one did surprise me. This is my outer persona, right? Yeah. So this is how she shows up in the world, her vibe. And I am a Taurus, so I was like, what? She's a Taurus sun, but I'm a Taurus sun. So Taurus Rising gives you a grounded, calm and steady presence. First impressions. You are reliable, warm, and comforting. Naturally stylish, with an appreciation for quality and beauty. Actually, this is very true, emotionally soothing to be around and people feel safe in your energy. Yeah I do think that's true, not because I'm tooting my own horn. I like, oh my God, I'm so cool. People feel so safe around me. But the reason I know people feel safe in my energy is'cause people will tell me literally everything. You know how I like to know deep, dark secrets?'cause I wanna connect. They will tell me their deep, dark secrets. I know. And sometimes I'm shocked at what comes out of people's mouths. And I'm like, whoa, why did you just tell me that? But I think it's because I can create that space. And I use that in a lot of different ways. But I do think that there is something to the magic of being like a space holder. You don't like to be rushed. Nope. This is also true. You enjoy the pleasures of life, good food, beauty, nature, and sensuality. And you also have a strong value. You don't sway easily from your beliefs or your instincts. You have a magnetic presence and you have a quiet strength that command respect without saying much, which is very true. Shout out to Taurus. That is true. With your wonderful. Aquarius Scorpio Taurus combination plate. You're a soulful change maker who leads with integrity and calm determination. People may see your soothing, grounded presence. Taurus, fill your emotional intensity and insight Scorpio, and eventually realize you're a revolutionary at heart. Aquarius. Here to leave a meaningful impact. Yeah, I agree with all of that. You know what I like about this though is that this breakdown helps to give a better understanding of the intricacies of people's complicated personality traits. Yeah. Honestly, it's pretty spot on. Yeah, it's a little weird. Yeah, it's a little weird. I, was looking for, okay what's wrong? What don't I agree with? And so I had a, hard time. I didn't really find anything that didn't resonate in some way. With how I see myself or how I can see myself showing up in the world and how I carry my feelings and things like that. Okay. So Mitch, it's your turn. It's my turn. Let's talk all about you. Yay. Okay, so wait. My palm is itchy. That means I'm gonna get money soon. Okay, go ahead. There you go. Don't scratch it though if you scratch it, then the money goes away. All right. We learned a lot about me. So now let's learn a little bit about you. And dive into your. Birth chart top three. So your sun is in Taurus? Yep. Your moon is in Pisces and your ascendant rising is in cancer. Yes. Which like, I think that was the biggest shocker. So we'll get to that. So Sun and Taurus, we've always known you've been a Taurus, and that's how we would talk about your astrology for the longest time, right? Sun and Taurus, again, core identity, how you see yourself. A Taurus gives you steady, grounded, and sensual nature. Nature. You're likely someone who thrives on stability, comfort and beauty. Think cozy homes, good food, music, and art, which is true. You're more of a steady and strong type than a sprinter. Loyalty and dependability are part of your core and you likely value material and emotional security. All true? Yes. But lemme just make a note about the sprinter part. Okay. My 23 and me said that I had the build of an athletic runner. Yes, but your stars say you don't. Yeah. It was like dormant trait. Boom. Now we know why I'll never be a runner. Yeah. I have always seen you in this way. Taurus, like strong-willed, practical. Charming. Like you're not super extrovert and outgoing in that way. Pretty goofy with the people I know. You're always looking for comfort. That's always true. And stability. I literally am wrapped up in a blanket like a burrito right now. And you're one of the most stubborn people I know. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of my best traits, honestly. Your moon, which is your emotions, your inner world is in Pisces. Which is interesting, both of them shock me, moon and ascended. Yeah, very. Both emotional signs, both water signs, which explains a lot. Actually, I think I read it and I was like, oh because this is a person who. Will text me at 10:00 PM saying, you have to watch this movie on Netflix, because I just cried and it's so good. Wow. And I'm like, really true? Yeah. I'm not trying to be sad right now. You're like no, just watch it. Or I'm leaving a theater like. I used to go to movies a lot with my friends, and we would go to theaters with theater hop, and then I'd be like, oh my God, this movie literally wrecked me. Yeah. And she'd be like, what the, why are you sending me this. Yeah. And the Aquarius and Scorpio with me is, no, thank you. I'm, we have too many emotions. We're not trying to collect any additional It's like that show on Netflix that you told me to watch. From scratch with Zoe Salana, and that one was a deep cut. Honestly, I cried so hard and I was concerned for you. I was like, I cannot, I'm wrecked. And there was one of the episodes in particular that was like, the hardest thing to watch. Really true. And then I thought. Why is she watching this? And I'm telling you as listeners, like she watches these movies all the time. She looks for the saddest. The sadder, the better well. Yes. And now it makes sense If we re, if we refer to the stars. The stars knew all along. You are a water sign, so you just live in this tumultuous ocean of emotion. And you're deeply sensitive and also intuitive. You're probably a sponge for emotions. Which can help you be more compassionate, empathetic, and dreamy. But this also as your moon sign gives you the heart of a healer, an artist, or spiritual soul. I definitely see the artist part in you. I think that's how you channel a lot of your feelings and emotions. You need time alone to recharge and can be emotionally affected by other suffering. Yes. Also, let me just say if I'm in a room with somebody for too long and they're telling me stories'cause I tend to be the person that sometimes can be sitting in that healer space where you're trying to be helpful to others that are going through different things in life. And I love being that person, but sometimes I have to emotionally recharge. So I will literally lock myself away. I'll watch a nice little Sandy b movie, Sandra Bullock, for those of you who are not over the age of 20. And I'll eat some Chinese food I'll be ready to go. Which Chinese food is her comfort food? Or Thai food. Yeah, Thai food. Yeah, so all those things, I think this is pretty accurate actually. Like your inner world, your emotions Live in the house of Pisces. You're very sensitive. You just absorb it all so much so that you like seek it out. But I find beauty in deep emotion. And so I think sometimes when I watch those movies, even though they're incredibly sad to a lot of people, to me there's a lot of meaning and value in those experiences that are depicted on screen, same thing for music. I think it's interesting too,'cause in this one one of the things that your report said was that, with the moon in Pisces that you can struggle with boundaries or escapism if overwhelmed. Which makes sense because I think when you're stressed out, whether it's work or just things in life are happening you do escape to these movies, but they're emotional movies because you can relate to them'cause you're very emotional. Yeah. And I think what I pull from the movies is a sense of hopefulness mo more often than not out of the actual storyline and the storytelling behind the character development. Yeah, and then as if that wasn't enough to have one water sign. You have two. So your ascendant rising is in cancer? Yes. And this is the personality or the persona that you outwardly display. And also lends to your approach to life, which was a surprise to both of us but it did make sense. I think we were, if we were to ask people they would probably say these things about you. They would probably say that they see you as sensitive, sweet, homebody, protective of yourself and your loved ones. Yeah. I could see that You can come across gentle and caring and they see you as strong, like with inner resilience. I think people would describe you that way. Because remember this is your external, so like us as your family probably see this part and your Taurus more. But you're not showing a lot of that to people externally outside of your inner circle. Yeah, I guess so. I think too, I've grown a lot in the last couple years, particularly more so than other seasons of my life. There's been a lot of transition, a lot of change, so I think I could see it now. If you were to ask me 10 years ago, I'd be like, no, way, I know I was protective, but I didn't always see myself as gentle or caring. I didn't actually associate strength with those words for many years. But I do think that's what you project out there. Yeah. I do think now looking at it in retrospect, that is why people tend to love me. Ah yes. I too am extraordinarily humble. I will also say is that it's interesting to me, I never saw myself as a nurturer, I never saw myself as approachable your dog and animals. Yeah. I always tell everybody my dog saved my life and my personality. Which in your rising in cancer is part of that personality is you come off shy or reserved initially. Yeah. Especially if you're, not in a familiar setting, but once you start to feel safe and comfortable, then you shine through. So blending your big three it says you're a beautiful mix of earthy strength, emotional depth, and nurturing presence. Think a grounded soul who feels deeply and protects fiercely, you're like a velvet glove over a steel hand that is soft comfort and warm on the outside point, and a quiet strength that can hold a lot. I do have a quiet strength that can hold a lot, you know what's interesting too is that we're gonna talk about this in a little bit, the shadow side of things. I was tapping more into my shadow side as like a rejection of those things because I didn't see being sensitive or being nurturing or approachable as like a valuable trait to have. Yeah. Which by all means, I don't mean that I was like the worst person ever, but I did come off, I was more like stoic and I thought stoic and strong was the way to go. And a lot of times. I don't even think I understood what the definition of stoicism actually was. I just conflated it with being really stiff and rigid. Let's talk about that for a minute, because I do think people who are really into these practices, beliefs such as astrology, sometimes it can become. I don't wanna say toxic. But sometimes they forget. There's a whole other side to it that you need to educate yourself on. Yeah. Because we only talk about all the good stuff. Oh, how cool. Look at, I am an amazing, beautiful earth goddess. It's yes, you are. And there's also a flip side. There's two sides to every coin. There's the shadow side, which if we're not tapping into these correctly, or we're pulling away from these traits that are part of our true essence, then we could be tapping into the shadow side. And there's lots of things that can push you into the shadow side of things. But it means basically you're out of alignment with your signs in this case. And the natural personality traits and characteristics that come with them. Yeah, absolutely. When you think about the shadow side, and you read through them, what stood out to you most? So for me, definitely something that stood out that is true is that I may clinging to comfort and familiarity instead of growth better. The devil I know, energy and yes, I can say that 100% undoubtedly that is part of the shadow side And might resist emotions or vulnerability, even though I'm this water sign that's really emotional and crying all the time on the inside mostly, but sometimes on the outside too might resist emotions and or vulnerability is big. Yep. I could see that can become emotionally guarded or withdraw completely. When feeling unsafe And might appear passive aggressive or overly moody instead of expressing needs directly. Yeah I can definitely see that. May over identify with the caregiver role and forget her own needs. Bingo. All right, Andy, so we covered mine. What are your shadow vibes? What do you feel like resonates with you when you were looking through the list that was given to you? Oh, none of them. I think some that I related to was like for my Sun in Aquarius, that I can become detached, like the detached rebel, like emotionally distant or aloof, especially when feelings get too messy. There's too much happening, too many emotions. And it takes over. And I tend to be more in a flight mode as the air sign. I'm just gonna float away into the clouds and you're not gonna see me. I can definitely isolate myself or keep people at arms length. So I resonated with that because I have definitely seen that show up Okay. As a shadow in my experiences. I definitely also resonate with getting stuck in emotional loops of resentment, and I love that this said revenge because if, like you betray me so hard. Like I'm coming for you. You know what I mean? I'm pretty calm, pretty levelheaded. You have to push me really far. And really hard for me to just really lose it, but once I lose it I'm not gonna, yeah, if I were a revengeful person, which I am not. I wouldn't be the I'm just gonna punch you in your face at the bar. I would be the like, you're not gonna see me coming. I'm gonna plan it out. You'd be the John Wick? I would be the John Wick for sure. 100%. Like I would the other parts of myself that are just like live in this very loving, optimistic place. Yeah. I would never be able to be that kind of person, but I could definitely relate to that. And as far as like taurus rising, I can definitely dig in my heels. Especially if something feels unsafe or I'm feel uncertain about it. So I do I, see some things here. There's a couple that I'm like I don't know, not so much, but I could be that way just because I haven't really experienced them, so I can't relate them to anything. Yeah, that's true. I think it's also important to note, since we're talking about shadow side, is that. You can also transmute the shadow. So transmuting the shadow. It's not about fixing it or erasing it'cause it's always gonna be there. But it's about acknowledging it with love and understanding where it comes from. And then we consciously choose a new way of being and or consciously choose ways to bring ourselves back to alignment with who we are. In our more natural state. What did we learn today so much? Too much. It's like a lot. I have like information overload in my brain, to be honest. You're like, as my shadow side said, it's time for me to go home and retreat. Like it's overloading me, so I gotta go, I gotta float away in the clouds. I think I think it's really interesting it probably gives me a little less skepticism. Yeah. I than so before doing it. And I can definitely see some of the connections to spirituality. Am I gonna make all my life decisions based on my birth chart? Probably not. But I find it fun and I'm still curious about it. And so I like to play with things like that. And how do they connect with other things? If I see a certain pattern happening in my life and then it's in my chart also, that's interesting to me. I wanna explore that a little bit more, so I probably wanna do a little bit more reading and learn more about it. But I definitely think this is not a belief system that if you adopt, you can't believe in anything else. I think it's a tool like any other tool that you can use in your life, to help you better understand yourself. I agree with that and I think approaching it with, from a place of openness and just being flexible to trying new things and trying to see if maybe this is something that speaks to you or that you find alignment with, or that it helps you identify some of your good values and traits, I think it could be really good. In terms of being utilized as a tool for that. I also think it's a great option for connection. So if you wanna just do your chart with your significant other just for fun or do it with friends, I think it could be a really meaningful experience for two people to do, or a group of people to do. If you have a group of friends that are really close and, wanna compare and contrast and give their 2 cents about the whole thing. It was definitely fun. I liked reading. About myself and I liked reading about you, and I thought it gave me something to think about. The complexities of personality are not always reflected in a lot of things when it comes to people who talk about astrology. And sometimes it can actually be used as a tool for bias. In my personal opinion oh, that's such a tourist thing, or that's such a Scorpio thing to do. Where we have these. Predisposed notions about a person. I do think that I enjoyed the concept of sitting down and seeing all the different elements that actually come into play when they're reading from the stars. Will I live by this, by the book? No. But I like the fact that it did bring up some of the things that I know to be true in my own lived experience. Yeah. And I'm like, oh wow. That's interesting. And yeah, it did make me a little bit more curious about it. I'm probably not gonna read it again, to be really honest. I'm not gonna lie, I am gonna run my daughter's chart so I can better understand her.'cause I have a teenage daughter and sometimes I'm like I don't know what language you're speaking, so maybe if I know maybe you're running chart what was written in the stars, it will help me understand my partner's a cancer. I totally get it. Like everybody that meets him, he's just like a true cancer but yeah, I think it's a tool. Definitely. I do appreciate that. If you really are interested in this, I recommend that you do the chart learn about it, read through it, and maybe work with someone who can break it down for you, because it is complicated. As we were reading it, it was like, what, there's 12 houses and all these different, it's like aspects and it, gets really deep and intricate. Which does lend to this idea that we're all so unique, even though we share common themes and common traits. At the end of the day, we're like individual stars in the universe and we're all very unique and different from each other, which very sweet is pretty cool. Yeah, that's very sweet. And we will leave you with that. Little unique star you. So go ahead, look up your chart, let us know what you find. We wanna know your big three and what makes you feel so seen. And whether you're deep into astrology or just here for the vibes or curious, like we were, we hope this episode gave you something fun to think about. Catch you next time. Until then. Until then, stay grounded. Or at least es Curious,